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Angeblich hat Howard Stringer (sony-chef) Informationen über das Preis und das Release der PS3 in einem Magazin preisgegeben.
Die Konsole soll etwa 300-400€ kosten. Laut Stringer wird der ersre HD-DVD fähige Player 1000€ kosten.
So kann man damit den günstigeren Blue-Ray Format pushen. Stringer wäre auch bereit dafür die ersten 6-12 Monate Verluste einzufahren.
Der Reporter selber geht davon aus, dass die PS3 in März 2006 in Japan und Winter in US auf den Markt kommt.
Genaueres kann man in den Artikel lesen.
Falls die Infos alt sind, dann sorry.
Angeblich hat Howard Stringer (sony-chef) Informationen über das Preis und das Release der PS3 in einem Magazin preisgegeben.
Die Konsole soll etwa 300-400€ kosten. Laut Stringer wird der ersre HD-DVD fähige Player 1000€ kosten.
So kann man damit den günstigeren Blue-Ray Format pushen. Stringer wäre auch bereit dafür die ersten 6-12 Monate Verluste einzufahren.
Der Reporter selber geht davon aus, dass die PS3 in März 2006 in Japan und Winter in US auf den Markt kommt.
Genaueres kann man in den Artikel lesen.
Falls die Infos alt sind, dann sorry.
hab ich auch schon gestern im ga gesehen. da das ding aber recht belanglos ist und aus dem us fernsehen stammt, hab ich drauf verzichtet, dass zu posten.
bevor nicht die ICE engine von naughty dog, dass licht der öffentlichkeit erblickt hat, kann man nicht sagen, ob die jungs und mädels es wirklich drauf haben, so zu programmieren. zudem ist ja newell nicht gerade ein verfechter dieses Multi-Threading programmings.
bevor nicht die ICE engine von naughty dog, dass licht der öffentlichkeit erblickt hat, kann man nicht sagen, ob die jungs und mädels es wirklich drauf haben, so zu programmieren. zudem ist ja newell nicht gerade ein verfechter dieses Multi-Threading programmings.
Heavenly Sword PWNAGE:
These are actual quotes from Dean Calver, a developer of Ninja Theory's next-generation title, Heavenly Sword.
News wrote:
Das nenne ich PS3 PWNAGE!!!!!! 
These are actual quotes from Dean Calver, a developer of Ninja Theory's next-generation title, Heavenly Sword.
News wrote:
Talking about the E3 trailer:
"The trailer was made by selecting a bunch of in-game moves/cool things, then those frames making up those bits were output at 1080p from the engine. These are then all stuck together in a editing and post-processing package to look like a movie trailer.
But fundamentally the 'render' itself was in-game, so you can see the shadow issues in certain frame where the in-game shadow map resolution optimizer doesn't do its job.
Talking about the FPS of Heavenly Sword at resolutions of 1080p:
Talking about the FPS of Heavenly Sword at resolutions of 1080p:"If you split the demo into 2 sections (interior and exterior), the interior runs real-time quite happily at 1080p. The exterior struggles a bit but more because we just kept adding more and more till it looked right without going through various optimization passes then anything else (i.e. the flags are really expensive at the moment due to a quick implementation)."
Asked about XBOX 360 development:
"Wrong next-generation console for me…"
Asked if soldiers from E3 trailer each had their own AI and animations:
"Yep, they are simplified entities but still have basic AI (they can avoid things, stay in formation etc., they try and jump out of the way of the bazooka if you look carefully...) and use the normal animation system, they are even the same models, the LOD system handles it transparently. They also turn into Havok rag dolls for a decent death.
Currently they are all on a single processor core, so the frame rate drops pretty sharply at high number of entities... but this should go away once we have had a chance to work the machine properly…"
Asked if soldiers from E3 trailer each had their own AI and animations:
"Yep, they are simplified entities but still have basic AI (they can avoid things, stay in formation etc., they try and jump out of the way of the bazooka if you look carefully...) and use the normal animation system, they are even the same models, the LOD system handles it transparently. They also turn into Havok rag dolls for a decent death.
Currently they are all on a single processor core, so the frame rate drops pretty sharply at high number of entities... but this should go away once we have had a chance to work the machine properly…"
Asked if the final product will look like the E3 trailer:
"Yep"
Asked about the odd hair color of the main character:
"All down to our Special Effects
(In case that pun is to obscure, Special Effects is brand of 'punk' hair dyes)"
Asked if the E3 trailer was running on one core:
"We haven't yet made the jump to a multi-thread game architecture yet. Almost everything sits on a single thread…"
Asked about advantages when game is split onto the SPEs:
"Graphics and frame rate are the low hanging fruit. Just threading up the animation system and procedural graphics (hair, cloth, flags etc.) will gives us a large amount of CPU time back for the game. The army need this the most.
Longer term, Physics and AI services are obvious candidates.
As for what improves?, that's a good question. The priority is to move the heavy weight stuff off the main game thread, hopefully doing this will provide lots more time for the game code. That should improve the gameplay in lots of ways.
Whether we will achieve all this and keep the code easy to develop with is the big question. Lots of designers and coders (especially the more junior members of the team) aren't used to dealing with threads, DMA and C like code. Keeping a balance between the high level and the harder stuff is the biggest challenge. I don't want a level designer having to worry about threads but at the same time don't want him/her coding in such a way that its totally serialized…"
Being asked about the hair being clumpy:
"Its part of the concept art, long dreadlock thing.
It will get smoother in time (less visible segments) and material shader still need work IMO."
"The trailer was made by selecting a bunch of in-game moves/cool things, then those frames making up those bits were output at 1080p from the engine. These are then all stuck together in a editing and post-processing package to look like a movie trailer.
But fundamentally the 'render' itself was in-game, so you can see the shadow issues in certain frame where the in-game shadow map resolution optimizer doesn't do its job.
Talking about the FPS of Heavenly Sword at resolutions of 1080p:
Talking about the FPS of Heavenly Sword at resolutions of 1080p:"If you split the demo into 2 sections (interior and exterior), the interior runs real-time quite happily at 1080p. The exterior struggles a bit but more because we just kept adding more and more till it looked right without going through various optimization passes then anything else (i.e. the flags are really expensive at the moment due to a quick implementation)."
Asked about XBOX 360 development:
"Wrong next-generation console for me…"
Asked if soldiers from E3 trailer each had their own AI and animations:
"Yep, they are simplified entities but still have basic AI (they can avoid things, stay in formation etc., they try and jump out of the way of the bazooka if you look carefully...) and use the normal animation system, they are even the same models, the LOD system handles it transparently. They also turn into Havok rag dolls for a decent death.
Currently they are all on a single processor core, so the frame rate drops pretty sharply at high number of entities... but this should go away once we have had a chance to work the machine properly…"
Asked if soldiers from E3 trailer each had their own AI and animations:
"Yep, they are simplified entities but still have basic AI (they can avoid things, stay in formation etc., they try and jump out of the way of the bazooka if you look carefully...) and use the normal animation system, they are even the same models, the LOD system handles it transparently. They also turn into Havok rag dolls for a decent death.
Currently they are all on a single processor core, so the frame rate drops pretty sharply at high number of entities... but this should go away once we have had a chance to work the machine properly…"
Asked if the final product will look like the E3 trailer:
"Yep"
Asked about the odd hair color of the main character:
"All down to our Special Effects
(In case that pun is to obscure, Special Effects is brand of 'punk' hair dyes)"
Asked if the E3 trailer was running on one core:
"We haven't yet made the jump to a multi-thread game architecture yet. Almost everything sits on a single thread…"
Asked about advantages when game is split onto the SPEs:
"Graphics and frame rate are the low hanging fruit. Just threading up the animation system and procedural graphics (hair, cloth, flags etc.) will gives us a large amount of CPU time back for the game. The army need this the most.
Longer term, Physics and AI services are obvious candidates.
As for what improves?, that's a good question. The priority is to move the heavy weight stuff off the main game thread, hopefully doing this will provide lots more time for the game code. That should improve the gameplay in lots of ways.
Whether we will achieve all this and keep the code easy to develop with is the big question. Lots of designers and coders (especially the more junior members of the team) aren't used to dealing with threads, DMA and C like code. Keeping a balance between the high level and the harder stuff is the biggest challenge. I don't want a level designer having to worry about threads but at the same time don't want him/her coding in such a way that its totally serialized…"
Being asked about the hair being clumpy:
"Its part of the concept art, long dreadlock thing.
It will get smoother in time (less visible segments) and material shader still need work IMO."
Ey ich habe auch mal einen kurzen Test mit einem PS-Controller in einem MM gemacht. Das spielte sich grottigst und war einfach nur zum kotzen! Und als ich dann mal eine PS für eine Woche ausgeliehen hatte, und Driver, Resident Evil und Theme Hospital drauf gespielt habe, habe ich keinen Unterschied zu meinem N64-Controller gespürt. Konnte mit beiden sehr gut steuern. Und als ich die PS2 über Nacht bei mir hatte, und Hack gespielt habe, hatte ich nach fünf Minuten keine Probleme mehr [und musste nicht wie Nicht-Spieler immer wieder auf den Controller schauen]. Das es für manche Probleme mit der Größe der Controller gibt [GameCube oder Xbox], ist nur natürlich, aber ansonsten ist alles nur eine Frage der Gewöhnung...
Einen Controller kann man nicht anhand eines Tests von fünf Minuten einschätzen, dazu braucht es schon etwas mehr.
Einen Controller kann man nicht anhand eines Tests von fünf Minuten einschätzen, dazu braucht es schon etwas mehr.
Ja das stimmt, da muss ich AMW recht geben. Eigentlich eine gewöhnungssache, obwohl der erste XBOX Controller da eine Ausnahme ist, an den gewöhnt man sich nie.
Der 360 Pad liegt relativ gut in der Hand, wie ich schonmal sagte, nur halt nicht ganz so gut wie der Dual Shock. Das was mich wirklich an der 360 gestört hat, war die Größe. Das Ding ist irgendwie absolut riesig und erzeugte eine recht hohe Geräuschkulisse...
Der 360 Pad liegt relativ gut in der Hand, wie ich schonmal sagte, nur halt nicht ganz so gut wie der Dual Shock. Das was mich wirklich an der 360 gestört hat, war die Größe. Das Ding ist irgendwie absolut riesig und erzeugte eine recht hohe Geräuschkulisse...
Was ist dann die Xbox für dich:
Größenvergleich Xbox/Xbox 360?
Btw. ist die PS3 afaik etwas größer als die Xbox 360...
Größenvergleich Xbox/Xbox 360?
Btw. ist die PS3 afaik etwas größer als die Xbox 360...