Lenkräder für die PS4
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Ein Chip ist notwendig um als allg. PS4 Controller in jedem Spiel und Systemmenü zu funktionieren.
Spiele können aber selbst auch andere Controller unterstützen. Die genauen Umstände sind nicht ganz klar. Warum es von Fanatec, Logitech, ... momentan keinen entspr. Support für sowas gibt ist die große Frage.
Spiele können aber selbst auch andere Controller unterstützen. Die genauen Umstände sind nicht ganz klar. Warum es von Fanatec, Logitech, ... momentan keinen entspr. Support für sowas gibt ist die große Frage.
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Das T100 auf der PCARS PS4 Liste ist kein Fehler:
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threa...t-supported-on-ps4.313485/page-8#post-9993520
Mit ~ 100€ ist es das günstige FFB Lenkrad, das (teilweise) PS4 Support hat.
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threa...t-supported-on-ps4.313485/page-8#post-9993520
Mit ~ 100€ ist es das günstige FFB Lenkrad, das (teilweise) PS4 Support hat.
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Moin, war gestern mal im Expert und hab mir mal das T80 von Thrustmaster angesehn. Die Verkäuferin war auch so freundlich es mit aus zu packen . Und ich muss sagen dass mir das Weehl wesentlich kleiner vorkommt als bei meinem Driving Force GT bilde ich mir das ein oder ist das echt der fall. Und weiß schon jemand mehr wegen möglichen Logitech updates für PS4?
Es gibt gute Neuigkeiten von Fanatec!
Dort laeuft seit einigen Tagen ein Countdown zu einer neuen Produktvorstellung. Es wird wohl eine neue Wheelbase. Und der Hinweis des Tages war "Next Generation"...
Thomas von Fanatec schreibt im Blog (ich hoffe, ich darf ihn hier zitieren):
"Die Kompatibilität zu den Spielkonsolen hängt ausschließlich von den Konsolenherstellern ab. Deren Interessen sind nicht immer durchschaubar oder nachvollziehbar und deren Policies ändern sich auch wie man bei der Xbox One schon mehrfach gesehen hat. Als lenkradhersteller können wir da nur nehmen was wir können und das Beste daraus machen. Und das haben wir jetzt gemacht :-)"
Dort laeuft seit einigen Tagen ein Countdown zu einer neuen Produktvorstellung. Es wird wohl eine neue Wheelbase. Und der Hinweis des Tages war "Next Generation"...
Thomas von Fanatec schreibt im Blog (ich hoffe, ich darf ihn hier zitieren):
"Die Kompatibilität zu den Spielkonsolen hängt ausschließlich von den Konsolenherstellern ab. Deren Interessen sind nicht immer durchschaubar oder nachvollziehbar und deren Policies ändern sich auch wie man bei der Xbox One schon mehrfach gesehen hat. Als lenkradhersteller können wir da nur nehmen was wir können und das Beste daraus machen. Und das haben wir jetzt gemacht :-)"
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"Gut" ist natürlich relativ und hilft den Inhabern der nicht ganz billigen alten Lenkräder nichts.
Ob wir jemals wieder ein PC, PS4 (+am besten PS2, PS3) und XB1 kompatibles Lenkrad sehen werden?
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noch der Link zum Blog:
http://www.fanatec.com/forum/categories/blog?p=categories/blog
Ob wir jemals wieder ein PC, PS4 (+am besten PS2, PS3) und XB1 kompatibles Lenkrad sehen werden?
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noch der Link zum Blog:
http://www.fanatec.com/forum/categories/blog?p=categories/blog
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http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/fanatec-announcements-updated-op.203494/page-364#post-10013104
Ich nehme an die hatten diesbezüglich Kontakt zu Sony.
Thrustmaster darf allerdings auch ohne, vielleicht ein spezieller Deal.
Ich nehme an die hatten diesbezüglich Kontakt zu Sony.
Thrustmaster darf allerdings auch ohne, vielleicht ein spezieller Deal.
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Fanatec hat sein neues Lenkrad enthüllt, und es soll mit beiden neuen Konsolen kompatibel werden.
Die Sache hat allerdings einen Haken: Das Gerät ist in einem höheren Preissegment angesiedelt, und [FU Sony, FU Microsoft] für jede Konsole muss man sich ein eigenes Rim kaufen (also das eigentliche Lenkrad), u.a. weil die Konsolenhersteller wohl nur Lenkräder erlauben, auf denen auch ihre Knöpfe
drauf sind. Gleichzeitig kann man so natürlich kein günstiges, anderes Rim verwenden wenn dort auch die Elektronik für die jew. Konsole drin sitzt.
Mit einem der beiden Konsolenhersteller wurde bereits ein Vertrag geschlossen, das Produkt dazu soll Ende des Jahre angekündigt werden. Fanatec verrät aber nicht ob es sich dabei um MS oder Sony handelt.
Die komplette Ankündigung:
The ClubSport Wheel Base V2 - Servo Power and multi platform
Kosten:
Base Unit (ohne Lenkrad): 600€
+ Pedale (80€ ... 250€, Logitech G2x Pedale gehen auch per Adapter)
+ Konsolen-Lenkrad (schätze mal 150€+ bzw. eher 250€+ wenn ich mir Fanatecs letzte Rims anschaue)
Die Sache hat allerdings einen Haken: Das Gerät ist in einem höheren Preissegment angesiedelt, und [FU Sony, FU Microsoft] für jede Konsole muss man sich ein eigenes Rim kaufen (also das eigentliche Lenkrad), u.a. weil die Konsolenhersteller wohl nur Lenkräder erlauben, auf denen auch ihre Knöpfe
drauf sind. Gleichzeitig kann man so natürlich kein günstiges, anderes Rim verwenden wenn dort auch die Elektronik für die jew. Konsole drin sitzt.Mit einem der beiden Konsolenhersteller wurde bereits ein Vertrag geschlossen, das Produkt dazu soll Ende des Jahre angekündigt werden. Fanatec verrät aber nicht ob es sich dabei um MS oder Sony handelt.
The ClubSport Wheel Base V2 - Servo Power and multi platform
The day has come and I am proud to show you the brand new ClubSport Wheel Base V2.
Although it looks familiar to you it has almost no part which has not been modified or replaced to make it a better base.
Our focus was durability, durability, durability and then performance. And while we made a radical re-design, we decided to make an offer nobody can refuse.
The smoothness, vividness and precision of a Direct Drive wheel combined with a torque increase of about 75% and (optional) compatibility to the latest gaming consoles. And all that with a moderate price increase.
Here are the details: 7 Ultra Precise
We replaced the optical sensor with two magnetic high resolution hall sensors mounted on both the motor and the steering axis. The new sensors have double the resolution and the magnetic sensore are less vulnerable to dust or scratched code discs.
6 Smoothastic
The cogging of this system cannot be felt by a human anymore. It is incredible smooth and feels natural and realistic. It is on par or better with the best and most expensive wheel out there although those wheels costs a multiple of the CSW B V2.
Every little bump can be felt and effects which were filtered by the wheel mechanics can now be felt. Your racing simulations will feel different and new to you.
5 Rock Solid
Our focus was to achieve high durability even for hardcore users.
• Improved QR release with rubber o-ring and less tolerance in production
• A brushless motor which can be cooled much easier as it gets hot on the outside and not on the inside so heat can be transfered better
• New cooling system featuring an additional fan on the backside right behind the new huge heat sink
• Integrated heat sensor inside the motor
• Motor can now even be operated at 180 C° although the FOR overclocking would be de-activated already at 120 C° and FF would shut down at 130°C. The motor has plenty of power so most people will not use max settings anyway. And during betatests it never happened that a motor was shut down or the FF was cut due to overheating.
• Ball bearings on the motor axis and bigger ball bearings inside the pulleys so we can increase the belt tension and avoid any belt slip. At the same time we have much less drag in the system.
• Magnetic sensors instead of the optical so we avoid problems with dust and scratches
• New main cable
• New electronics
• And many other small improvements to the overall build quality
4 Power. A lot.
The new motor is custom designed and exclusive to Fanatec. Although the gear ratio has been changed to increase the rotation speed, it delivers about 75% more torque than the CSW B V1. This means over 7 NM of sheer
power and this is enough to use even heavy rims with no disadvantages. The size of the power supply has also increased in order to feed the big motor.
3 Brushless Servo
A brushless servo motor is currently state-of-the-art for force feedback systems and in principle this is exactly the same motor as the most expensive direct drive base units out there.
• Smooth performance with no cogging (in combination with our Poly-V belt drive system or direct drive)
• Easier to cool as the heat is on the outside of the motor and not on the motor shaft
• Strong axis with ball bearings
• Optimized for use in stall at max power
• Fast acceleration
• More efficiency -> more torque with same power
We had to develop entire new electronics for that motor as the motor
driver is quite complex. Now that it is done we can easily use it for smaller brushless motors or a direct drive wheel.
2 Next Generation
The ClubSport Wheel Base V2 is the next generation of ourwheel base but there is also a strong demand of wheels for “Next-Gen” consoles. People were asking us to make their wheels compatible to the Xbox One and Playstation 4 but if we want to make it official and legal then we need to follow the rules of the console makers and they clearly do not allow
that.
So how can we make a product where there is a chance that the customer can keep at least most of the equipment he purchased? We can easily make the pedals, shifters and handbrake compatible and this is what we did but what about the base unit?
And how can we make a product multi-platform compatible if we can only get approval for a license if the product has only the symbols of either one console on it?
We came up with an idea which brings modularity to a whole new level and protects your investment. If you play on PC then just go ahead and purchase the wheel base as it is and you will not be bothered with symbols which might hurt your eye.
But if you want to enjoy the painless simplicity of a console with its great exclusive racing simulations then you will get the option to buy an optional steering wheel which will
add full console compatibility to this base.
We want to achieve compatibility to both Xbox One and PlayStation 4 and we are happy to announce that we already signed a contract with one of them. We will announce this product at the end of this year.
There will be multiple steering wheels available in different price ranges and they will compatible to several Fanatec base units from mid-range to direct drive.
1 By Invitation Only
The great response we get from our beta testers lead us to the conclusion that the demand for this product will be much bigger than the supply. Production output will be lower as before as we spend even more time on quality control and testing.
At the same time we want to honor the loyalty of our existing customers and want to offer a special pre-order discount for the owners of the current ClubSport and CSR Elite base so that they can enjoy a little upgrade advantage.
This is how it works:
• We will send an e-mail to our webshop customers with an invite code. There will be several waves of e-mails in the next months.
• Only after you entered the code to your profile page you will be able to purchase or pre-order this product
• After you purchased one V2 base you will receive a second code. You can give that to a friend or buy a second base.
•
Only one code will be given with a purchase as we want to avoid that people are selling their products or invites on eBay and make money with it.
• We will also give away invites in giveaway events so frequent followers of the blog or Facebook will also get a chance to get an invite
This is the priority we will use for the invites to make it as fair and transparent as possible.
1. Webshop customers of the CSW B V1 and CSR E (sorted by purchase date)
2. Webshop customers of other ClubSport products like CSP or CSS
3. All other Fanatec customers
Of course we will treat all territories with the same priority.
Not every customer will use his invite so go ahead and ask your friends if they use their invite of if they give it to you in case you are not on the list yet. It is possible and welcome to transfer invite codes.
Please do not ask our sales team for invites. They are not authorized to give out codes anyway. If it is your turn then you will get an e-mail. We will open a thread in our forum which explains more details and where you can also ask for invites from other members.
By the way, all lucky customers who placed a pre-order for the old V1 base just got a free upgrade to V2 and they are the first to receive the new product.
The Price
Pre-order price:
EU: 499,95
USA: 499,95
AUS: 655
J: 65.000
Regular price:
EU: 599,95
USA: 599,95
AUS: 785
J: 78.000
Prices are calculated different in the regions depending on taxes, laws, logistic costs and other local costs.
Availability
We started production this week and as soon as we start shipping, we will open the pre-orders for the invited guests. The first products should arrive at the end of September or early October.
Although it looks familiar to you it has almost no part which has not been modified or replaced to make it a better base.
Our focus was durability, durability, durability and then performance. And while we made a radical re-design, we decided to make an offer nobody can refuse.
The smoothness, vividness and precision of a Direct Drive wheel combined with a torque increase of about 75% and (optional) compatibility to the latest gaming consoles. And all that with a moderate price increase.
Here are the details: 7 Ultra Precise
We replaced the optical sensor with two magnetic high resolution hall sensors mounted on both the motor and the steering axis. The new sensors have double the resolution and the magnetic sensore are less vulnerable to dust or scratched code discs.
6 Smoothastic
The cogging of this system cannot be felt by a human anymore. It is incredible smooth and feels natural and realistic. It is on par or better with the best and most expensive wheel out there although those wheels costs a multiple of the CSW B V2.
Every little bump can be felt and effects which were filtered by the wheel mechanics can now be felt. Your racing simulations will feel different and new to you.
5 Rock Solid
Our focus was to achieve high durability even for hardcore users.
• Improved QR release with rubber o-ring and less tolerance in production
• A brushless motor which can be cooled much easier as it gets hot on the outside and not on the inside so heat can be transfered better
• New cooling system featuring an additional fan on the backside right behind the new huge heat sink
• Integrated heat sensor inside the motor
• Motor can now even be operated at 180 C° although the FOR overclocking would be de-activated already at 120 C° and FF would shut down at 130°C. The motor has plenty of power so most people will not use max settings anyway. And during betatests it never happened that a motor was shut down or the FF was cut due to overheating.
• Ball bearings on the motor axis and bigger ball bearings inside the pulleys so we can increase the belt tension and avoid any belt slip. At the same time we have much less drag in the system.
• Magnetic sensors instead of the optical so we avoid problems with dust and scratches
• New main cable
• New electronics
• And many other small improvements to the overall build quality
4 Power. A lot.
The new motor is custom designed and exclusive to Fanatec. Although the gear ratio has been changed to increase the rotation speed, it delivers about 75% more torque than the CSW B V1. This means over 7 NM of sheer
power and this is enough to use even heavy rims with no disadvantages. The size of the power supply has also increased in order to feed the big motor.
3 Brushless Servo
A brushless servo motor is currently state-of-the-art for force feedback systems and in principle this is exactly the same motor as the most expensive direct drive base units out there.
• Smooth performance with no cogging (in combination with our Poly-V belt drive system or direct drive)
• Easier to cool as the heat is on the outside of the motor and not on the motor shaft
• Strong axis with ball bearings
• Optimized for use in stall at max power
• Fast acceleration
• More efficiency -> more torque with same power
We had to develop entire new electronics for that motor as the motor
driver is quite complex. Now that it is done we can easily use it for smaller brushless motors or a direct drive wheel.
2 Next Generation
The ClubSport Wheel Base V2 is the next generation of ourwheel base but there is also a strong demand of wheels for “Next-Gen” consoles. People were asking us to make their wheels compatible to the Xbox One and Playstation 4 but if we want to make it official and legal then we need to follow the rules of the console makers and they clearly do not allow
that.
So how can we make a product where there is a chance that the customer can keep at least most of the equipment he purchased? We can easily make the pedals, shifters and handbrake compatible and this is what we did but what about the base unit?
And how can we make a product multi-platform compatible if we can only get approval for a license if the product has only the symbols of either one console on it?
We came up with an idea which brings modularity to a whole new level and protects your investment. If you play on PC then just go ahead and purchase the wheel base as it is and you will not be bothered with symbols which might hurt your eye.
But if you want to enjoy the painless simplicity of a console with its great exclusive racing simulations then you will get the option to buy an optional steering wheel which will
add full console compatibility to this base.
We want to achieve compatibility to both Xbox One and PlayStation 4 and we are happy to announce that we already signed a contract with one of them. We will announce this product at the end of this year.
There will be multiple steering wheels available in different price ranges and they will compatible to several Fanatec base units from mid-range to direct drive.
1 By Invitation Only
The great response we get from our beta testers lead us to the conclusion that the demand for this product will be much bigger than the supply. Production output will be lower as before as we spend even more time on quality control and testing.
At the same time we want to honor the loyalty of our existing customers and want to offer a special pre-order discount for the owners of the current ClubSport and CSR Elite base so that they can enjoy a little upgrade advantage.
This is how it works:
• We will send an e-mail to our webshop customers with an invite code. There will be several waves of e-mails in the next months.
• Only after you entered the code to your profile page you will be able to purchase or pre-order this product
• After you purchased one V2 base you will receive a second code. You can give that to a friend or buy a second base.
•
Only one code will be given with a purchase as we want to avoid that people are selling their products or invites on eBay and make money with it.
• We will also give away invites in giveaway events so frequent followers of the blog or Facebook will also get a chance to get an invite
This is the priority we will use for the invites to make it as fair and transparent as possible.
1. Webshop customers of the CSW B V1 and CSR E (sorted by purchase date)
2. Webshop customers of other ClubSport products like CSP or CSS
3. All other Fanatec customers
Of course we will treat all territories with the same priority.
Not every customer will use his invite so go ahead and ask your friends if they use their invite of if they give it to you in case you are not on the list yet. It is possible and welcome to transfer invite codes.
Please do not ask our sales team for invites. They are not authorized to give out codes anyway. If it is your turn then you will get an e-mail. We will open a thread in our forum which explains more details and where you can also ask for invites from other members.
By the way, all lucky customers who placed a pre-order for the old V1 base just got a free upgrade to V2 and they are the first to receive the new product.
The Price
Pre-order price:
EU: 499,95
USA: 499,95
AUS: 655
J: 65.000
Regular price:
EU: 599,95
USA: 599,95
AUS: 785
J: 78.000
Prices are calculated different in the regions depending on taxes, laws, logistic costs and other local costs.
Availability
We started production this week and as soon as we start shipping, we will open the pre-orders for the invited guests. The first products should arrive at the end of September or early October.
Kosten:
Base Unit (ohne Lenkrad): 600€
+ Pedale (80€ ... 250€, Logitech G2x Pedale gehen auch per Adapter)
+ Konsolen-Lenkrad (schätze mal 150€+ bzw. eher 250€+ wenn ich mir Fanatecs letzte Rims anschaue)
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Im Shop:
http://www.fanatec.com/us-en/wheel-bases/clubsport-wheel-base-v2-us.html
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Es fehlt momentan einfach ein PS4-Lenkrad wie das DFGT - nicht zu billig, nicht zu aufwendig.
XB1 ebenso. Edit: Wobei das "Lenkrad Thrustmaster TX Racing Wheel Ferrari 458 Italia Edition" mit aktuell 260€ günstiger ist als das T300 für die PS4.
http://www.fanatec.com/us-en/wheel-bases/clubsport-wheel-base-v2-us.html
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Es fehlt momentan einfach ein PS4-Lenkrad wie das DFGT - nicht zu billig, nicht zu aufwendig.
XB1 ebenso. Edit: Wobei das "Lenkrad Thrustmaster TX Racing Wheel Ferrari 458 Italia Edition" mit aktuell 260€ günstiger ist als das T300 für die PS4.
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Noch ein paar Antworten:
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/fanatec-announcements-updated-op.203494/page-370#post-10021713
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/fanatec-announcements-updated-op.203494/page-370#post-10021713