PES 2017 - Dieses Jahr wird alles besser, vielleicht

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#61
Hui... PES/FIFA setzt in diesem Jahr neue Maßstäbe, die das Fußballspiel auf ein völlig neues Level heben? So ein krasses Lob im voraus gab es ja noch nie für eines der beiden Spiele :shock:

Konami hat Großes vor
Nach wie vor ist es jedoch so, dass wenn Euer Spieler im Zweikampf ins Straucheln kommt, diese Aktion erst ausgeführt werden muss, bevor man wieder weitermachen kann.
Na herzlichen Glückwunsch...
 

PRO_TOO

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#62
ARSENAL ist jetzt lizensiert. Ich denke mal dafür fällt eines der bereits lizensierten Teams weg.

KADERUPDATES sollen in 2017 ab Tag 1 für on- und offline Modi verfügbar sein. Wöchentliche updates dann für alle Modi wöchentlich.

MIMIK und GESTIK sollen nun auf aktuellem Stand sein. GRAFIK an sich macht auch in der frühen Version einen guten/besseren Eindruck.

SCHIESSEN macht wohl einen besseren Eindruck mit mehr Variationen und Abhängigkeit von Spieler zu Ball. "Laser"-Schüsse wie in 2014-16 sollen der Vergangenheit angehören.

Edit:
Es soll sich LANGSAMER spielen.

Nichts zum Thema Freistöße, Penalty, Kopfbälle.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TriNFaB[/ame]
 
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PRO_TOO

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#63
PES 2017 hands-on: your questions answered on passing, shooting, free kicks and more
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It’s worth nothing, too, that net physics are astonishingly lifelike now. Instead of successful shots sagging into the net, some come flying back out and pinball around the box – and when that happens you can slam the ball home for a second time. It’s a brilliant, satisfying little detail which suggests Konami is really pushing hard to deliver the beautiful game’s intricacies in addition to its fundamentals.
oh boy...
So whereas in FIFA 16 a diagonal pass from, say, centre back to right midfielder might fly out of play if you didn’t get the intended angle perfect via the left stick, PES is more forgiving. In PES 2017, under- or overhit a similar pass and the recipient might need an extra split-second to trap it, but I see zero balls spanged out of play due to slightly imprecise controller inputs.
...ooooookkkkaaaaaaayyyyyy.....!?!?!?!? :ugly: ^^
http://www.gamesradar.com/pes-2017-...ered-on-passing-shooting-free-kicks-and-more/

Die sollen zwar erstmal die wichtigen Sachen angehen, aber sowas ist nice:
It’s worth nothing, too, that net physics are astonishingly lifelike now. Instead of successful shots sagging into the net, some come flying back out and pinball around the box – and when that happens you can slam the ball home for a second time. It’s a brilliant, satisfying little detail which suggests Konami is really pushing hard to deliver the beautiful game’s intricacies in addition to its fundamentals.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evz_HOHZz0I[/ame]
Edit: wie ich das Gesicht net mehr sehen kann... Dieses Grinsen... :ugly:
 
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#66
Es geht mir da nicht ums Geld. Die 50€ sind geschenkt. Aber das ist so was elementares, was so unfassbar nervt und ständig vorkommt. Das ist nun schon seit zwei Jahren drin und die haben es immer noch nicht gefixt.
 

PRO_TOO

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#67
Ja das kann echt nerven.
Ich habe jetzt zu einigen Meinungen des Event builds verschiedene Aussagen gelesen. Sei es bei der Grafik oder den Keepern z.b....kann man sich also auch nix für kaufen.
Bald kommen dann die Videos und man ist sich wieder "etwas sicherer"... ^^

Zumindest fangn se früh an!
Die Umfragen werden dann auch wieder fleißig ausgelegt um sie anschließend zu schreddern! Konami...
 

PRO_TOO

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#69
Gibts irgendwas zu den Pässen? Leichter?Schwerer?PingPong?
6. Passing feels crisper and more responsive
It's a difficult phenomenon to explain through words alone, but football fans will understand when we say that the 'weight' of passes has been altered to make even the shortest of linking play feel impactful. Players tend to pass to one another slightly more powerfully than before, meaning there's less standing around and waiting for the ball to arrive and more thinking about where the ball should go next.
The effect is that a patient build-up approach is now as engaging to execute as those decisive through balls have tended to be. This improvement in passing is compounded by the diversity added to the way players are able to turn their first touches to their advantage, the space created allowing for a greater range of subsequent passing options. This acts to bring more players into the game then is presently achievable within the limitations of PES 2016, breathing new life into what are otherwise familiar situations.
http://www.redbull.com/en/games/stories/1331797826911/pes-2017-preview-for-ps4-xbox-one-pc

This is evident from the onset with the pace of the game feeling more representative of the real sport. During different phases of the match, the pace of the on field action fluctuates but the user always maintains the control. This is linked directly to the new Precise Passing, which sounds like a generic feature from a Mega Drive era soccer game yet offers more crisp and varied passing than PES has seen in almost a decade. Passes have more weight to them, with timing and accuracy being far more influential on outcomes. So far so good.
http://winningelevenblog.com/blog/pes-2017-preview/

Anfangs ist das Passen allerdings recht ungewohnt, denn im Vergleich zu PES 2016 muss nun für stärkere Pässe der entsprechende Knopf deutlich länger gedrückt werden. Unsere ersten schwächeren Pässe kullern dementsprechend nur lahm über das Feld und werden vom Gegner abgefangen. Nach ein paar Minuten haben wir uns umgewöhnt und kombinieren gefällig durchs Mittelfeld.
Viel präziser kommt uns das Passspiel zwar nicht vor, Spaß macht es aber trotzdem. Verbessert wurden in jedem Fall die hohen Zuspiele in den Lauf, die lassen sich jetzt auf Wunsch nämlich auch mit deutlich mehr Druck spielen, die oftmals schwachen Bogenlampen aus dem Vorgänger sind passe.
http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/pro-e.../pro_evolution_soccer_2017,53837,3273360.html

Das Is von den 3 die ich gelesen habe.

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Volle Pulle Bhatti.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNFsZY3WICY[/ame]

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Ist das Trikot von Lloris von seinem Arm beeinflusst?




Gab es die Uhlsport HS schon länger?

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[ame]https://twitter.com/officialpes/status/737967700648022016[/ame]
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Noch mehr Eindrücke:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-06-01-pro-evolution-soccer-2017-preview

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/pes-2017-seeks-to-become-the-most-realistic-soccer/1100-6440345/

http://www.godisageek.com/2016/06/pes-2017-hands-on-preview/

http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/review/a796064/pes-2017-review-preview-gameplay-features/

http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/pes_2017/preview-3999.html

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2016/06/01/hands-on-with-pro-evolution-soccer-17/

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/06/...imilar-to-the-last-game-and-thatas-just-great

http://www.psu.com/preview/30127/PES-2017-Preview--Little-touches-leading-to-another-title-charge

http://www.pesfan.com/blog/2016/06/01/pes-2017-pes-fan-impressions/
 
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PRO_TOO

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#71
Damian® Daymos Twitter :
"Camera angles look like a hand held TV cam when the players came off at half time.. quality"
YouTube : Shogun FC Twitter :
New stats : Body Control & Physical Contact
Twitter Impressionen:
[ame]https://twitter.com/danielrhenry/status/738322530822426624[/ame]

[ame]https://twitter.com/PESFan_Pirate/status/738318967064911872[/ame]

[ame]https://twitter.com/DJDaymos/status/738314264646156292[/ame]

[ame]https://twitter.com/73blueboy/status/738324062892634113[/ame]

[ame]https://twitter.com/GariClark/status/738323445189087232[/ame]

[ame]https://twitter.com/GariClark/status/738320424556212224[/ame]

[ame]https://twitter.com/PESFan_Pirate/status/738319664128925696[/ame]

i'm following the #PESday hashtag and seeing a couple of tweets coming through, albeit non english. If i get time i'll post up anything i see that's relevant here:

so far:

If you want to exchange a player in the Formationsscreen, you can see immediately what value had other players at his position. #PESDay - @PESianity
New information screen with player faces (finally!). Looks very good - @PESianity
We confirm the tempo of slow match - @WENB_ES
highlights: many new animations - @WENB_ES
Player reviews can be viewed already at the half-time break, new stats ball winning, events, etc - @PESianity
Replays flow normal speed So refreshing to see.. faces look like they are on another level.. more lifelike - @DJDaymos
Camera angles look like a hand held TV cam when the players came off at half time.. quality - @DJDaymos
Arguments still look a bit stiff #PES2017 - @AshElNegro
Transitions between camera angles are not like before #PES2017 No black screen pause ie gap... Replys are relevant clips only - @DJDaymos
New player attributes - Body Control & Physical Contact - @AshElNegro
keepers seem to be a massive improvement just smashed a shot toward the bottom corner v @bad_boy_g & Lloris tipped it round the post - @PESFanPirate
Through balls over the top don't seem to be so OP with defenders reading it most of the time and managing to intercept - @PESFanPirate
deep defensive line is fantasticPart of advanced instructions' stops any long balls! Amazing how the defenders stop all L1 triangle - @bad_boy_g
The way the ball moves is so accurate! They've toned down the sped of the game! So many advanced instructions! Trying them all -@bad_boy_g
Passing is smooth with long balls less affective! Positive so far played @PESFan_Pirate two games won one and lost one! The battles r good - @bad_boy_g
The realism on pes17 is amazing + keepers are doing some fantastic saves! - @bad_boy_g
When a player gets booked now, the card appears next to their name at the bottom of the screen - @GariClark
One word GOALKEEPERS - ‏@danielrhenry
everything feels so free on the pitch #PESDay - ‏@danielrhenry
seen 1 one on one so far R2 worked but will try it a few more times to see how it works out #PESDay #PES2017 - @PESFanPirate
Also, the shooting is so much more organic now compared to how it was last year. It now feels rewarding - @GariClark
At free-kicks, there are the obligatory spray by the referee, however without annoying sequences like a different game... - @PESianity
Nets are more realistic and react how they should. - @GariClark
Referees make mistakes, but they're realistic mistakes based on referees position and speed of play - @AshElNegro
Both Attacking and Defending are more difficult but rewarding. Skills make more sense but not overpowered - @AshElNegro
At free-kicks, there are the obligatory spray by the referee, however without annoying sequences like a different game... - @PESianity
Nets are more realistic and react how they should. - @GariClark
Referees make mistakes, but they're realistic mistakes based on referees position and speed of play - @AshElNegro
Both Attacking and Defending are more difficult but rewarding. Skills make more sense but not overpowered - @AshElNegro
R2 shots are hit and miss as not all are going in keepers are making saves on shots that go in on PES2016 - @PESFanPirate
It feels that way (Is the game harder?), yeah. You have to work harder now to get results - @GariClark
Shooting is more natural and dynamic (Is there shot variation?) and the refs are a lot better at blowing for fouls and playing advantage etc - @GariClark
Body Control attribute greatly affects dribbling and allows players like Sanchez and Cazorla to do bits - @AshElNegro
just a quick one - if you want to shut up shop you can defending is so solid - @Danielrhenry
'Ultra responsive' 'natural' 'immersive' three words I'd use to describe #PES2017 so far - @Glen_pesworld
So far, wow. Actually so impressed. Can also confirm through ball spamming is gone, thoroughly tested by Few people - @damidnitekid
honestly through ball spammers will be destroyed - defending is so awesome this year - @danielrhenry
I was very dirty! Refs don't let you get away with fouling and Doing super cancel - @bad_boy_g
I am now afraid of the ref - they will punish you - @danielrhenry
Al players aren't making rash decisions! (do the refs show AI the red card?) Refs are actually realistic strict but won't just give reds - @bad_boy_g
you can do he Gegenpress is part of the advanced instructions! And teams press real hard so for people who time waste you can use this new feature to win the ball back! It's awesome!! - @bad_boy_g
Passes are good there is a leap in quality for this in automatic to be aware of the power, Position to give the pass will be very important for their effectiveness - @WENB_ES
Gone are the days of usin super cancel 2 get out of free kicks, keep getting pulled up straight away unless clear advantage is there - @PESFanPirate
Goalkeepers now have many more animations. Are much more secure, stop much more - @WENB_ES
(‏@Bluetony88 do the cpu actually make fouls this year?) YEP - @Glen_pesworld
(‏@iam_emmo when you play against AI do all their shots go low in the bottom corner as per PES16?) nope it's more varied, they'll try many different ways to score including more crossing of the ball - @Glen_pesworld
http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=3141760&postcount=57
 
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PRO_TOO

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#72


- replays sollen nun in normaler geschwindigkeit laufen und es gibt keine schwarzen überblendungen mehr zwischen gameplay und replay.
- regen tropft vom netz.
- KI soll mehr variationen im abschluss haben, also nicht immer wieder in den winkel.
- defensive einstellungen (d-pad/L2) sollen das L1-Dreieck Spiel stark unterbinden.
- Shirt physics und überarbeitete net physics sind wohl durch Glen und Adam bestätigt. Was man auch immer davon halten mag.
.. moving shirts when players jump up, showing some belly, is a pretty cool thing.. will add to the realism. Pity hair doesn't move (also confirmed by Glen).. now that would be something.
From Glen PESW
‏@glen_pesworld
@adammass3 kits are flowing it looks amazing. When a player jumps his shirt sometimes lifts and you see a bit of belly
 
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PRO_TOO

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#74
Hört sich doch alles geil an :)
Ja. Einiges davon ließt sich gut. Aber wir kennen ja Konami....
Aber ich finde so wenig negatives. Und das was ich finde wurde schon länger bemängelt.
Obwohl ich dieses Jahr auch wieder versuche euch die Infos ran zu schaffen, bin ich doch wesentlich gefasster als die letzten Jahre.
:)
 

PRO_TOO

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#75
Some more negatives from today test this time by blogpes

http://www.blogpes.fr/pes-2017-nos-prem ... ions-4242/

Shooting is really similar to Pes 2016, that means rocket shots from every position, with every player they tried to shoot.

R2 is still effective,even if less compared to last year

Crossing is too easy since they are guided to attacker's head and goalkeeper stays on the line,doesn't try to intercept it.

Freekicks and penalties are exactly the same as Pes 2016. Goalkeepers dive with the same ugly animations during penalties, exactly the same as in Pes 2016.

More and more evidence that right now Pes 2017 is a Pes 2016 2.0. Now we also know shooting variety is unsatisfying just like in Pes 2016.
http://winningelevenblog.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=23960&start=860#p442142

Other preview from pesblog.fr http://www.blogpes.fr/pes-2017-nos-p...ressions-4242/ does not speak good of shooting as well. They say it keeps mostly the same as PES 2016 with some more difficult on R2 shoots, but the cannon bombs continue.

The only aspect that seems always positive around all previews are the improved keepers.
http://www.blogpes.fr/pes-2017-nos-p...ressions-4242/
 
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PRO_TOO

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#77
The critical flaws that were in last years game (as you've put it) are not in the game I played yesterday.

and I seriously love what's been done so far for PES2017 - the GOALKEEPERS have stood out for me followed by gameplay inc shooting on goal, followed by day and night games, followed by nets.

The game is good to go right now
http://winningelevenblog.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=23960&start=880#p442169


post by danielrh:
played lots of game yesterday player v player because guys wanted to play, everyone was eager to get on, everybody played on superstar setting

GOALKEEPERS big big big big big improvement on PES2016

AI freaking awesome - personally speaking I found myself attacking my opponent through the centre - then switching tactics in the second half to try and attack out wide, I used a hug the touch line tactic playing with Atletico Madrid because I wanted to stretch the defense - Antoine Griezmann, I LOVE HIM ON PES2017 his sweet sexy tight control dribbling enabled me to get past the full back then I started to exchange sweet sexy one two's with both Luciano Vietto, I replaced Fernando Torres (his head wasn't in the game) and Ángel Correa not ping pong passing but me weighting the pass by carefully squeezing on the pass button becasue I was afraid to lose the ball and give possession back to my opponent, managed to find myself in a goal scoring position I powered by the shoot button and let rip .... WHAT A FANTASTIC SAVE from Petr cech a brilliant one handed save did'nt see that one coming, that's usually a goal on PES2016 and yes I did scream WHAT A FANTASTIC SAVE and Daymos and I watched the replay (three times)

PES2017 you must now PLAY FOOTBALL - through ball spamming is thing of the past
http://winningelevenblog.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=23960&start=880#p442176


PES-Day Impressions
Entering the Konami office at precisely 10am, I genuinely wasn’t sure what I hoped to get out of the day.

I mean don’t get me wrong, it was brilliant to finally be attending a community day event and meet some guys I’ve become friends with through the world of PES but I wasn’t 100% sure that I’d be happy once the consoles were off and I was on the way home.
...
But just wait until you see the brand new replay presentation. The new TV style replay system is where PES 2017 truly shines. I’ve been crying out for proper TV style cutscenes for years. I want to see Diego Godin rile up his teammates as they scrap for dominance or Alexis Sanchez plead with the ref for a free kick.

All this happens between missed shots, or after a breakdown in play.

It’s basically like FIFA 16’s end of match highlights presentation but it happens in real time during the match.

It’s a massive statement from Konami this year.
Corners, penalties and free kicks were still disappointingly the exact same except for the actual marking options in corners. The actual power bar with trajectory arrow seems even more out of sorts for this new realistic direction Konami have taken with PES 2017.

It hasn’t been ruled out that the system might be changed before launch day but as for now, it does the job
http://www.pesuniverse.com/pes-2017-pesday-impressions/
kann man mal lesen! der typ wurde mit 2016 nicht warm...

edit:
the shooting on PES2016 got easy because you know that if you shot you get that goal - shooting has improved because of better variation and error variation.

I remember Daymos being one one with my keeper and I was bracing myself to be disappointed and he went for the side foot shot but the ball went wide - so yes there is variation in this years shooting
 
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PRO_TOO

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#78
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRFweHMdVLQ[/ame]

ich habe die letzten tage videos von 3 typen gesehen. die waren alle auf dem #pesday event! alles sprechen die gleichen positiven punkte an... kann das echt net ernst nehmen, da es nach absprache bzw. konami gehirnwäsche klingt. wenn die wenigstens über verschiedene aspekte reden würden oder irgendeiner was negatives sagen würde... voll agenda mäßig!

auf die schnelle habe ich nur noch die 2 hier gefunden:
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vToxLLaF4gQ[/ame]

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk0Rap4dpXs[/ame]
edit: und hier noch das dritte:
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7L81ALIilo[/ame]
 
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#80
@PRO

Schau dir mal die Channels der Typen an:

https://www.youtube.com/user/PESEP14/videos

"Danke Konami" ~troll~
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMr7JduCBjk[/ame]

https://www.youtube.com/user/lelly2sxcgametime/videos

https://www.youtube.com/user/BardinskiPlays/videos

Konami weiß welche Leute sie einladen müssen. Das sind alles PES Fanboys. Andererseits wissen die Leute was Konami von Ihnen erwartet. Hype! Wenn sie es nicht liefern, werden sie das nächste Mal nicht eingeladen oder mit Geschenken versorgt.
 
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